Dutchess Menstrual Cup - Reusable, Soft, Medical-Grade Silicone Period Cups - Easy to Clean Tampon and Pad Alternative, Pink & Purple, Small, Pack of 2

After extensive research on menstrual cups, I settled on the Dutchess brand. I did this because other reviewers stated they were more flexible than other brands and because it was economically more practical to buy two for the price of one of the other brands. The pros: -Extremely flexible. I opted for a more flexible fit so that insertion and removal would be easier. I also didn't want a firm "plastic" feel and figured that the softer silicon used in these Dutchess cups would be more comfortable. I was correct in assuming this. -It is simple to insert and remove these cups. I have tried both cups included in this package, and they are identical save for their color. -The "stem" on the bottom is short. It's the perfect length for pulling the cup out without "poking". -The cups hold plenty. Not to get into gory details, but they'll last you a full day. Easily. They'd last longer than a full day, I'd assume, but I don't leave them in more than 14 hours. -These are economically practical. Two of these for the price of one DivaCup, and they last fifteen years according to the packaging. I see no reason they wouldn't last longer than the fifteen years, as they are a flexible but sturdy product. It would be difficult to break them down, so to speak. -Cheaper and more convenient than buying pads and tampons -Less landfill waste (if you're into that) Cons: -There is writing on the inside of the cup to indicate the amount of fluid it holds. If you like keeping track of the amount of fluid in the cup, this might be a good feature for you. However, it takes an extra 12 seconds or so to scrub out the raised numbers on the inside of the cup when you are washing it out. -These would, theoretically, require more privacy and time than a public restroom if you had to change them at work or in public. So far, I have had no problem wearing these for 14 hours, though, so I can't truly complain about this. All in all, these are a wonderful purchase, and the pro's far outweigh the con's. As far as I'm concerned, the cons are not even so much of a burden as to lessen my rating. I have had no leakage or messes, no problem inserting or removing, and no worries about my period since I started using these. I would make this purchase again, but these were a sound investment that will save me literally thousands of dollars in the long run...I can't see the need to replace these for a very, very long time! I hope everyone can benefit from this review and feel comfortable in making the switch to the Dutchess cup!

I previously used pads only, never got into using tampons. I experienced a heavy period after changing birth control methods. It was so awful, I decided I didn't wanna have to deal with this bloody crap anymore, even if my flow normalized. My mom recommended them to me long ago, but I was skeptical I would like it, since I didn’t even like putting tampons up there. Today I am on my second day of heavy flow and I am proud to say I am not even wearing a liner! I put on a pair of my favorite long briefs instead of designated period underwear and am not worried about it. I don’t ever feel like I’m bleeding. Even if I cough or sneeze, I don’t have to feel the blood gushing out of my vagina! I used the menstrual cup for over 9 hours overnight before it leaked, and all day for an 8 hr work shift today with no problems or leaks. I am on my feet all day at work, squatting, bending over, etc. Aside from having a very comfortable period, I am also excited to not have to buy disposable products. Ultimately, it’s a huge savings financially. No more having to run to the store for pads - YAY! And for anyone who cares about the Earth, the lack of waste is awesome. I can only imagine how much money I’ve spent on feminine products, and how many bags of trash I have filled since starting my period. It’s so awesome to me, I am also looking into reusable liners for spotting or if I’m worried about leakage. The menstrual cup has 100% replaced full sized pads for me, though! I’m also a traveller, and this is going to be a huge space saver. Even in the bathroom at home, it’s a space saver. And I don’t ever have to leave embarrassing trash in someone else’s house either. Now for anyone who wants to hear more about my experience, I’m about to get detailed. Let's be honest about how it will feel. Insertion was simple enough. Fold the cup in half and stick it in! I didn't use any lube. It wasn't necessarily super comfortable, but I don't think I will feel the need to use lube. Once it's in the hole, it goes pretty easy... just gotta get it up there a little first and then boom-bam, you're in. Every vagina is different, but I just wanted to note lube isn't necessary for everyone. To make sure the cup is open, all I need to do is grab that little pull tab thing and move it side to side a little. Give it a little tug to see if you feel suction. If not, just wiggle it around again until you feel like there's proper suction. This is important, because you will leak if it isn't sealed. It does feel pretty weird to pull at the inside of your vagina and cervix with essentially a suction cup, but it doesn't really hurt, per se. It's just weird. Removal is where it gets more difficult. I personally was afraid I wouldn't be able to pull it out. This is a silly fear. Even if I couldn't, it's not like it would be stuck there forever - your vagina would eventually work it down and out by itself. However, the first time I had to pull it out, I was actually so nervous my vagina literally tensed up and the cup got pulled up further from my hole. I was freaking out a little trying to reach up there, and then I realized I needed to relax. As soon as I relaxed, the cup dropped to a place that could be more easily reached. So don't freak out! It's still a little hard to pull due to the suction, but it gets easier the more you pull. I often squeeze the bottom of the cup to release the suction. It's kind of dangerous though, because if the cup is really full, it most likely will get messy if you squeeze the bottom too much. Inevitably, you will have some gross removals, especially initially. My hand looks like it belongs to a murderer some times. It's honestly pretty nasty. Good news, though! It gets easier as you learn how it works and get more comfortable. But definitely don't go to a public restroom and try to dump your cup before you practice with it a bit! Today, I decided I needed to dump it in the bathroom at work. I was right, it was super full... but I am still no pro with this thing, and some times I feel like it pops out really suddenly. So I actually ended up splattering a few drops of blood on the wall and floor! Oh lord... Luckily I got a great tip from someone I know who has used menstrual cups for a while now - get two or three paper towels and get them damp before going into the stall if you must deal with it in public - in case you get blood on your hand, your privates, or apparently the wall. I was thinking flushable wipes would be convenient, too. When you get a menstrual cup, get ready to learn about your body. It’s definitely an interesting experience at first. Ultimately, I am so happy I am learning about my female parts more, the good and the gross. The menstrual cup is your gateway to comfort - mentally and physically. I have nothing bad to say. It's worth the occasionally bloody fingers.

I had never used these before and didn’t know much about them until seeing a video on Facebook. I’ve always just used tampons/pads and so it was totally new territory for me! For newbies like me I would suggest doing a little research specifically regarding the various ways you can insert them. Also, I’ve read that the size you pick should be chosen based more on your flow and not whether you have had children or not. Anyway, I ordered the small since I have never been pregnant and I have an average flow. When I first tried to insert it, I folded it in half or a “c” shape as shown in the directions provided. That did NOT work for me. It wouldn’t fully open up inside and just felt really uncomfortable. Also I was a little put off by the firmness and thickness of the rim...I was expecting it to be thinner and softer. After a few insertions and removals I was thinking NOPE. Not for me. BUT, that’s when I started doing a little more research and saw some tips on how to insert it properly. So I opted for a different way of folding it (I fold one side down into the center) and sat on the toilet while inserting and VOILA! Using that method made it way easier to insert and felt much more comfortable! I can’t really feel it at all while it’s in, but it is still something to get used to. The removal/emptying part is what I’m kind of struggling with now. I guess there are many different ways to maneuver it as with the insertion, but it’s just awkward. I guess because it feels bigger coming out than it does going in...but I’m sure as I continue to use it I will find a more comfortable way to remove it. It did leak a little (which is why I gave it 4 stars), but that could be related to my poor insertion skills. So I am still wearing liners, but it beats soaked tampon strings and honestly just feels cleaner! So if you’re wanting try these it is a great option, but do some research and understand that it may take time to adjust to it!

It's only been a few days and I'm already praising these and will never buy another box of tampons ever again. I've wanted to try these for the past decade, and now I'm mad I waited so long. The money you'll save alone and of course the environmental benefits are just two points on a long list of great things about these cups. First off, I was worried because I did a few 'dry runs' right before it started, so I could find a fold style I liked before the action happened- and it did not go well. It was uncomfortable, and it took many tries to pop open. When the real test came though, I had zero issue and a triangle fold worked perfectly, every time. If the 'C' fold does not work for you like it didn't for me, there are many more fold styles to try with smaller insertion points. If you're having trouble, do yourself a favor and dedicate a little time to researching tips and fold styles, it made all the difference for me. I also expected this to be a lot messier to deal with than it actually is, so far tampons are actually worse in that regard, for me at least. You just loosen the suction, dump in the toilet, rinse and re-insert. No having to use tons of TP to clean yourself up. There is also no smell, no wet strings, and I've had zero leaks. I can move and sleep in any position and not feel a thing. Ladies, don't hesitate like I did for so long. I had many concerns and worries, and this is possibly one of the greatest decisions I've ever made. It will take some practice, but once you find what works for you, it's quick and simple. Personal comfort is very important to me, and other than cramping, I can finally say my period is no longer a burden to me.

First a couple important things about me: 1) I'm a 33 year old female with no childbirth experience (I mention this because I'm always confused by the description. I'm over 25 so maybe I should buy the bigger size? But I don't have any kids, so maybe the smaller is better for me?), 2) I'm an experienced cup user, and 3) I'm a heavy bleeder. The Red Monkey on my back is a monthly blight to all that I consider good and wonderful in my life. Managing this monkey is a always a trial and requires some creative problem solving and a ridiculous ability to manage my schedule and ensure that I have access to a private lavatory for quick changes as needed, at all times. My cycle tends to last for 5 days with the first 2 days being unbearably heavy, the third day being confused as to whether it would like to stop or not (so my period almost stops, then resumes a few hours later with another heavy flow), day 4 is a medium flow, and day 5 is a light flow until it tapers off into blessed nothingness. Then because of all of the crazy heavy bleeding and my constant tampon usage, I then follow my period up with diluted hydrogen peroxide washes for the entirety of the following week, just to re-balance my overtaxed system. I explained all of the above because tampon usage has become an art-form for me as I try to decrease my risk for TSS (or toxic shock syndrome for those that aren't in the know). For the first 2 days of my cycle, I use Ultra tampons (by Playtex, not Tampax, because they fit me better and have less problems with leakage) that are changed every 3 to 4 hours. I also wear Ultra thin Infinity pads as my backup for the entire length of my cycle. Over night on these days, I'll wear my tampon for 6 hours before changing it when i wake up in the morning, and there will always have been leakage to my Infinity pads. On the next day, I either wear Ultras or alternate with Super Plus tampons that I change every 4 to 6 hours, depending on how heavy my blood flow is. By the last day, I start with Supers, then downgrade to a Regular, and finally a Lite by the end of the day for overnight wear, or I'll stick with a Regular and skip wearing a pad. Suffice to say that my cycle requires a lot of management. Enter the Dutchess cup. My prior experience with menstrual cups include using The Keeper, the Diva Cup, and Instead soft cups when I was in my early 20s. When I was younger, I didn't use Dutchess, but rather those other brands. I loved menstrual cups at first, but then because of my super heavy flow, I stopped using them and went with tampons. I'm a nurse and I wasn't comfortable cleaning my cup in a public stall with toilet paper every few hours. And there was no way I could wash out my cup at a link of sinks without grossing everyone out. So I opted to use the disposable cups. They work well in theory, but I changed them just as frequently and they were prone to leaks, so I didn't feel comfortable using them over my Diva Cup or the Keeper. Reaching the limit with my frustration, I switched over to Tampons and haven't looked back. Now, I'm several years older and about to get a Mirena IUD. While I'm transitioning over to being free of the monkey for the next 5 years, I imagine I'll still be bleeding sporadically, but nowhere near as heavily as I do now. For that reason, I've begun using the keeper again. For my last few regular periods, I've found myself rotating my Dutchess cups every 4 hours on days one and two, with leakage only when I surpass that time interval. But otherwise, going to the bathroom between hasn't been a problem (and no messy gross strings to grab, and no feeling like it's being pushed out by my muscles when I pee or poo, like i experienced with the Diva Cup). Also, no hard rubber nub poking my delicate flesh, like with the Keeper. Instead, just legitimate comfort- you really can't feel it- for hours. Emptying is easy- just bear down, pull the tab a bit, get a grip on the base apex, squeeze and twist to release suction, then gently pull out and empty into the toilet. The hardest part of this whole process is the cleaning. In a private bathroom, I'll rinse in the sink and wash with soap and water. In a multi-stall lavatory, I'll clean with wipes and toilet paper, then wrap in toilet paper and put away in my bag until I have a private moment to clean it. Soap and water to clean is sufficient until my period ends, where i then boil them for a few minutes, dry them on a towel, and put them away until next month. As an added bonus feature, these include little measuring ticks to let you know whether you've got a half ounce or full ounce of blood in the cup. If you look before you pour, you can at least get a rough estimate of how much blood you are losing over the course of your cycle. I use the P Tracker Lite app in the App Market to note the amounts in notes for each day of my cycle. It might be a weird thing to know, but I'm pretty anemic, and my doctors appreciate that little detail when I describe my behaviors and experiences to them. It's a pretty big detail that helps substantiate my claims to help determine treatments. I can't speak of the durability of these as I've only had it for a couple of months, but my Diva Cup got pretty discolored within a few months of usage- but it was also just a transparent white color. This are at least lovely shades of pink and lavender, so hopefully the discoloration will be less obvious. I'll update in a few months to note any breakdown or wear on these. In the meantime, I can say that I'm pretty happy about not having to go through a multitude of tampons anymore. I like that I only have to really worry about my time intervals with regards to when I change these. I've worn mine for up to 12 hours without any issues. I do always use back-up pads on days 1 thru 3, often on 4, and rarely on 5. But I've felt more confident going without pads on days 4 and 5 when wearing my Dutchess Cups, and I haven't had issues with leakage on those days. My recommendation would be to pay attention to your cycle and your anatomy. Size B Dutchess Cups work well for me. I wish they could hold a little more blood, but the size and contour work so well that I really can't complain. If you empty this at the appropriate intervals, you shouldn't have issues with leakage. Insert appropriately (fold-method) and twist for proper placement, then you're good to go. Empty every few hours and wear a backup pad while you're learning how frequently you'll need to empty this. If it's uncomfortable, pull it out fold in half lengthwise, and try again. I pretty much fold in half, and insert this with my middle finger, just about as far as it will go. I then let it pop open, and pinch the bottom twisting it a few times, then poke around with my middle finger to make sure I don't feel any gaps. I then give it a gentle final tug, wipe a few times to clean up any residue (using the Cottennelle flushable wet wipes), then stand up to make sure I can't feel it, then go on my way. I highly recommend giving this a try, even if other cups didn't work for you. Again, I do think that oddly enough, different cups may work better with different anatomies. This worked for me, but I did try out several to get to this happy place. Good luck!!!

Buy a menstrual cup, they said! Life changing, they said. So easy to use! So, I ordered one here because I’m cheap and don’t like to talk to people. I’ve had two children by c-section and I’m a petite girl so I figured the small would be most appropriate. Spoiler alert: I was wrong. My little cup o’ love arrived and this morning, here comes our favorite friend. So I pull it out of the box (and sterilize it). If you’ve never seen one of these things, it looks like a tulip bud with a tiny threaded screw at the bottom. I didn’t question it. I didn’t think to myself, “this minuscule protrusion will be my future gateway to freedom.” I just accepted it. My friends had used one and they made it sound like they clicked ‘submit’ and POP, out it came. Why would it be any different for me? So I went on about my day. Nothing special at first. Lots of sitting. I even worked out and as I’m running and doing burpees, I’m amazed at how well this is working. This little tulip bud is pretty awesome! I finished my workout and decide now might be a good time to check the oil. Release the kraken. Like every other bathroom in north Texas’ houses, my toilet is in its own little closet. It’s about 3 feet wide. In fact, mine has grab bars installed due to a previous foot surgery. Ok, here we go - those friends said they just reach in and grab it, easy peasey! I’m doing the “I’m at a public toilet mid-squat hover” and reach in for the peg. There it is! I pull. My fingers slip off. Oh shoot. Must grip harder. I’m pulling. I’m losing it. It’s not budging. That little peg is so small. I’m regretting the fact that I keep my nails short. I’m trying to use my stubby nails to dig into the threads of the peg. Ain’t nothing moving. That thing is holding on with 3000psi force. I own a Squatty Potty (those toilet-shaped foot stools - they really are awesome). I put my feet up on it. I’m working my kegels. I’m doing Lamaze breathing. I’m even “pushing” though I’ve never pushed in my life. It’s time to take a break. I’m about 5 minutes into menstrual-cup labor and I’m on the verge of freaking out. You know when you feel like you’re about to cry and you force yourself to laugh instead and it comes out like a squeaky toy that your dog is only obsessed with during the sad parts of “This is Us”? It’s at this moment I reach that point. I stop and go to the sink and wash my hands - clean, dry hands. That’s the ticket. What if this thing never comes out? What if it’s stuck forever? Why is it so far up there? Does a vaginal canal lengthen as you age? Do two pregnancies stretch things out? Even though neither of my children exited in that way? This was supposed to be easy. WHY AM I SWEATING? There is an urgent care right next to my house. Maybe it’s time to head there. There are two female doctors and one good looking male doctor on staff. Chances are, I’ll get the good looking male doctor. I can’t walk into that urgent care with a Venus flytrap stuck in my hoohah. I imagine all the lady-bit suction cups they’ve had to remove. I can’t be another statistic. I can’t give up yet. I head back in with clean, dry hands. More yanking and pulling. Deep breathing. Gripping the grab bars. One leg up on the grab bars. Laughing! NOT CRYING!! Do I know anyone who would come and help? Ok, that’s just ridiculous. I’m definitely sweating. This cervical suction cup has got to come out and I start thinking of all the ways I can dislodge it from its death hold. Is there a friend I can call? A former boyfriend? Someone I hate that doesn’t know it yet but we definitely won’t be speaking after this? What about household tools? I’ve got a crescent wrench in the garage that might grip that joke of a rip cord at the bottom of the buttercup. No, on second thought, I’m just not that in to tetanus. I’ve got a conference call in a few minutes. I need to either get this thing done or head to the ER. It’s last-ditch effort time. Let’s do this. Have you ever milked a cow? I haven’t. But I’ve seen it done in movies and PBS specials, and - what happened next - I can only describe in that way. I get one leg up on the grab bars, go in for the kill, and grab by the sides of my little tulip friend. I’m squeezing and pulling at the same time. There is a SQUEEAALSCH sound and I give birth to a tiny little butter tub. PRAISE JESUS - I’ve been released from the clutches of hell. People, I have not googled the frequency of menstrual cup suction ER visits because, quite frankly, I’m afraid to. But I am a survivor and I will live to tell another tale. Menstrual cups are not for everyone and, sadly, sizing charts are not available for such a thing. Err on the side of caution and protect yourself as Mother Nature intended: with itchy synthetic pads and tampons. Just kidding. I don’t have the answer. I do know that menstrual cups have a higher incidence of TSS and PID, so that is the reason I’m not trying this again. Stay sexy and don’t let your cervix get suctioned.

I bought these menstrual cups about two months ago, and I am currently using them on my third period since. I had originally looked into the Diva cups, but I couldn't justify spending $30+ on a single cup when these had wonderful reviews and were less than half the price for two of them. I want to start off by explaining that I have an extremely heavy flow, and my experience has been very different than other's. Before using these cups I went through an ultra tampon every 1.5-2 hours on my heaviest days. Right now, I have to empty out my cup about every 4-5 hours on my heaviest days. I rarely have leaking, but when I do it's because my cup is completely full (even when I do, I can tell that it's time and I go empty before I stain anything). On my lighter days I can cut down emptying it once a day. As a comparison, both my sister and girlfriend have tried these cups and both haven't filled up a cup in a single day. I remember there were times I had to use the bathroom shortly after I put in a tampon and I'd have to get fancy with the string to keep it from getting urine or feces on it. It's significantly easier to use the bathroom now that there is no bothersome string! These cups are easy to use, but you do have to be comfortable with yourself. After inserting my cup, I find myself running my finger along it to ensure that it is fully sealed, I do a little tug to ensure the seal, and then I'm all set. The first time I pulled out the cup it was like a war zone; the suction seal came undone and some blood went spurting out (so be careful and prepared). I've since learned that it is easier for me to pull it out most of the way and use a second hand to push the rim of the cup to break the seal. After doing that I am able to pull the cup out without a mess and measure how much I have lost (this is the most satisfying part). Recently, I decided that this is probably what a shot glass for vampires must look like. Along w/ having to run to the bathroom less often to change my tampon, I've noticed is there isn't an odor like the one I would get with tampons, and my cramps are noticeably less painful. Overall, I absolutely love these cups. They are more efficient, safer, and inexpensive. I've recommended these to all of my friends. I went from buying a box of Ultra tampons monthly to having two cups that I can reuse. These have already saved me triple what I spent on them. I highly recommend trying these out. Make sure to get the right size for yourself.

So these are my thoughts after my first cycle using this product, but I'll update if my thoughts change in the future. I won't go into detail about all the financial, environmental, and health benefits of menstrual cups - if you're reading these reviews, I'm sure you've done or are already doing research of your own. This review is already going to be lengthy enough without all that info! So I've been interested in menstrual cups for nearly as long as I've been menstruating (I'm 19, started at 11, heard of cups around 14) but I've always been too nervous to try one. I'm a pretty anxious person, so the fear of getting a cup lodged so far up inside of me that I can't get it out on my own mortified me. It's a somewhat valid fear though, because I've seen reviews of cups that ended with doctor visits! But you know what else is really scary? Bleached cotton wads that cause TSS being crammed up into your netherbits. The other reason I held off on trying a cup for so long is because $30+ is a lot to spend on something that may not work for you, especially when you have a limited teenager's budget like I did when I first discoverered the cup. Well, now I'm a little older and braver so I've finally decided I'd give it a go. I was very happy to find Dutchess Cups being sold in pairs for the cost of 1 cup from most brands, or under $20 for 1 individual cup. I'm very conscious of the materials I put into my body and I have a lot of allergies to things, so finding an affordable medical grade silicone cup was really nice. The silicone is a good quality and consistency, IMO. It's not too soft, not too hard, very pliable, but firm enough to keep its shape and pop open easily, and I like that there are color options besides clear (even if only typically girly colors). I didn't have any trouble learning to insert or wear this cup, not even on the first try. I used the push down fold abd it went in and opened up easily. Removal, on the other hand, took a day or two to get down because I had difficulty breaking the seal. Most people say they just squeeze the base and pull, but that wasn't working for me. I started reaching up to the top rim of the cup and pushing it inward to break the suction. Even with my fumbles with removal, I've made little to no mess in the process. Yes, you may occasionally get a bit of blood on your hands, but that's nothing new for me, so I'm not bothered. The stem is very useful for me because I grip it with my middle finger and thumb during removal while my index beaks the seal, but it's quite short and pokey, which has its pros and cons. The firmness makes it easy to grip and tug at, but it can also be a literal pain. It doesn't stab or hurt me throughout the day, but because the stem is firm and comes to a semi-rounded point, it can jab into your skin when you go searching for it. If it was just a smidge softer and longer and maybe had a couple of ridges, it would be perfect for me. This also may be a pro or con depending on your anatomy, but it's a pretty small cup. I saw a chart recently that compared the lengths of pre-childbirth sized cups from several popular companies, and the Dutchess was among the shortest. This may not be a problem for some people, especially those with light-normal flows or low cervixes (cervices?), but I am not one of those people. I bleed like crazy and my cervix is so high up that I can't feel it at all when I'm not menstruating. In fact, I only just learned that mine shifts low enough to barely be felt when I'm menstruating because I felt it for the first time thanks to the cup! Before the cup, I didn't really go poking around up there during that time of the month, ya feel me? As for the capacity, I'm the type of person who regularly leaks through tampons in a short period of time because I bleed so much. The good news is that I've had minimal leakage so far. I wad afraid to sleep with the cup in for the first night because I've read that's when it's most likely to travel upward on you, but I quickly got over the fear. I decided to sleep with the cup in on the second night and I'm happy to report that it was completely fine. I woke up to find that it had barely moved in the night, and that I'd had a very minor leak another night, but that's just because it had been in for 10 hours straight. As I already said, I have a heavy flow and this cup is small, which simply means I have to empty it more often than most people. I average about 8 hours of wear with this cup but have started to leaked in as few as 6 on my heaviest day, but that's still far better than changing a tampon every 2 hours! I also tested this cup while rough housing in the pool with my little brother. It didn't un-seal or leak at all no matter how much I swam, ran, jumped, flipped, etc. Over all, I've had a good experience with this cup. I do have my qualms with it, but these are entirely based on my own needs and anatomy. I want a different stem, whereas I know several people who cut their stems completely off, and I want a longer cup with a bigger capacity, but that's because I have a high cervix and heavy flow. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this product and I'd recommend it to friends whose flows are light to normal, who have average to low cervices, or who have little to no experience inserting tampons/penetration of any kind, but none of those things apply to me. I will continue to use this cup for a while, but I do see myself buying a larger cup in the future (probably a Lunette). I do like this cup and even though it's not MY perfect fit, it's completely changed my periods for me and I'm very glad I purchased it.

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